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Date: 13 January 2009
Time: 6:30pm
Location: The Guildhall
 
Printed Minutes filetype: pdf  (321KB)
 
Committee Contact Details
Contact Name: Democratic Services
Telephone: 01522 873370/371/619/533
E-mail: democraticservices@lincoln.gov.uk

Membership
Councillor Darren Grice
(Leader of the Council)
Councillor Ronald Hills
(Mayor)
Councillor Yvonne Bodger Councillor Brent Charlesworth
Councillor Jane Clark Richard Coupland David Denman Councillor David Gratrick
Sandra Gratrick Charlotte Grice Paul Grice Helen Heath
Councillor Gary Hewson Councillor David Jackson Marc Jones Councillor Andrew Kerry
Councillor Geoffrey Kirby Councillor Karen Lee John Metcalfe Councillor Ric Metcalfe
Councillor Neil Murray Councillor Donald Nannestad Oliver Peeke Bud Robinson
Councillor Fay Smith Councillor Hilton Spratt Councillor Edmund Strengiel Councillor Ralph Toofany
Keith Weaver Councillor Peter West Alister Williams Councillor Loraine Woolley 


Number Title and Minutes
65 Mayoral Announcements

A minutes silence was held in memory of Ex-Councillor Tony Morgan.

The Mayor outlined his recent mayoral engagements which included:
 

  • Opening the Christmas Market
  • Atending the Halle held at the Drill Hall
  • Attending the Lincoln Choral Society

The Mayor also presented a mayoral badge to Councillor S Gratrick the Deputy Mayoress.

66 Confirmation of Minutes - 18 November 2008

RESOLVED that the minutes of the meeting held on 18 November 2008 be confirmed.

67 Declarations of Interest
Councillor Donald Nannestad declared a personal interest in Minute No. 71. 
Reason: He was an Allotment Holder. 

Councillor Oliver Peeke declared a personal interest in Minute No. 72. 
Reason: He worked for Lincolnshire County Council. 

Councillor Darren Grice declared a personal interest in Minute No. 72. 
Reason: His grandmother was a resident at Derek Miller Court . 

Councillor Richard Coupland, Councillor Geoffrey Kirby and Councillor Bud Robinson declared a personal and prejudicial interest in Minute No. 72. 
Reason: Lincolnshire County Councillor. 

68 The Portfolio Holder for Corporate Management

The Portfolio Holder for Corporate Management

  1. submitted a report updating Members on the following areas covered by his Portfolio:
  • Service Review Programme and Impact on MTFS
  • Comprehensive Spending Review 2007
  • Revised Approach to Project Management
  • Strategic Plan Implementation Team (SPIT)
  • Major Projects
  • Closedown of E-08
  • Review of Lincoln Strategic Partnership (LSP)
  • Lincoln Local Children's Partnership
  • Health Board and Neighbourhood Health Working Group
  • City Centre Masterplan
  • Lincolnshire Sustainable Community Strategy and Local Area Agreement - Commitments and our Performance Management
  • Medium Term Financial Strategy
  1.  answered Members questions thereon.

RESOLVED that the report be noted with thanks.
 

69 The Portfolio Holder for Customer Services

The Portfolio Holder for Customer Services 

  1.  submitted a report updating Members on the following areas covered by her Portfolio:
  • IDeA Peer Review Results
  • Customer Services Team current responsibilities:
    • Main Reception
    • Switchboard enquiries
    • Council Tax enquiries
    • Benefits enquiries
    • Housing enquiries
    • Environmental Services enquiries
    • Refuse and clesning enquiries
    • Tourism enquiries
    • Cashiering
    • Travel Concessions
    • Benefits Advice
  • Customers Services Performance for 2008/09
  1. answered Members questions thereon.

RESOLVED that the report be noted with thanks.

70 The Chairman of Performance Scrutiny Committee

The Chairman of the Performance Scrutiny Committee:  

  1. submitted a report updating Members on the following areas covered by his Committee:
  • Performance Indicators
  • Quarterly Performance Reporting.
  • Sickness Performance Clinic
  • Homelessness Performance Clinic
  • Portfolio Holders Under Scrutiny Session
  • Joint Scrutiny Sessions with Policy Review Scrutiny Committee 
  • Housing Scrutiny Sub Committee
  1. answered Members questions thereon.

RESOLVED that the report be noted with thanks.
 

71 Receive any Questions Under Council Procedure Rule 12 from Members and provide Answers thereon

The following questions were asked under Council Procedure Rule 12 and answered as indicated:

Question 1

Questioner: Councillor Charlesworth

Will the Council Leader kindly inform Council how many meetings of Council committees, advisory bodies and other meetings requiring the attendance of Members of the Controlling Group have been cancelled or rescheduled since the Conservatives took power in May 2007, including the proposed cancellation and rescheduling of Monday 12 January 2009's Policy Review Scrutiny and the cancellation of Wednesday 14 January 2009's Policy Development Scrutiny Committees?

Answered by Councillor D Grice

Since we took control in May 2007 a total of 53 meetings that members of my Group should have attended have been cancelled. Of these meetings 23 were rescheduled. If Councillor Charlesworth wishes I can arrange for a list detailing all of these meetings, including the reason for cancellation, to be forwarded to him

Supplementary Question
 

Does the Leader consider that along with the frequent absence of various Conservative Councillors from timetabled meetings, the continual cancelling and/or rescheduling of Committee and other City Council meetings according to the availability of Conservative Councillors to attend, is an indication of just how bad things have come to in the running of this Council? Would he furthermore agree with me that all this does is to impede the efficient administration of Council business and debases the public reputation of the Council and its Councillors?

 Answers

 In respect of the Corporate Equality and Diversity Development Group, Officers were not available and also a number of meetings were affected by industrial action. A number of meetings were also cancelled due to lack of business.

Question 2

Questioner: Councillor R Metcalfe

In your May 2007 Party Manifesto you said "We will allocate money to each Ward. Councillors in consultation with residents will negotiate how the money is spent in their ward."

A full year later, at the Council meeting held in April 2008 I asked Cllr Strengiel when the Ward Budgets scheme would be introduced and he replied "within the next five weeks". Can you explain to Council why, some 21 months since making this election promise, no such scheme has been introduced?

Answered by Councillor D Grice

Following a comprehensive Strategic Plan Review from May 2007, the revised Strategic Plan VII was published in November 2007 and included a commitment to introduce a scheme of Ward budgets, whereby every Councillor takes control of a small budget to deliver/support community initiatives.

A total of £33,000 was allocated for the scheme.

Officers subsequently undertook a range of research to identify a model of ward budgets that balanced the cost and administration of such a scheme, with the need to ensure sufficient probity and governance arrangements.

As Councillor Metcalfe will be aware the Standards and Audit Committee considered the proposed scheme on 28 July 2008 where a number of further suggestions were made. The scheme was subsequently amended and submitted to Executive on 26 August 2008, where it was approved.

Executive, at its meeting on 15 September 2008, considered the relative importance of the service review programme. Section 5.2 made it clear that some strategic plan schemes would be deferred until after 2008/09 to allow staff resources to be reallocated to the service review programme, which was the priority.

Whilst the accompanying Appendix to that report (Appendix D) indicated that the ward budget scheme would progress in 2008/09, staff capacity had to be diverted from this project as well to deliver the service review. The current position is that the detailed procedure to underpin the operation of the scheme will be worked through over the coming weeks and the scheme will be launched to Members in April 2009.

Supplementary Question

This is a simple scheme, am I to understand that the average delivery time for election promises is about two years?

Answers

It appears we have delivered far more in 2 years then you did in 10 years.

Question 3

Questioner: Councillor Nannestad

Given that the current service review programme is intended to cut revenue costs of the City Council to reduce a £1.5mn budget deficit, will you consider withdrawing the allotments service from the current service review programme?

Answered by Councillor D Grice

Councillor Nannestad takes every opportunity to insist that it is about saving money; this is not true it is also about investment. The Report to Executive on Monday 15 September 2008 identified all the service reviews that would be progressed as part of Phase One of the service review programme.

Appendix A on Page 46 of that report identified Allotments as one area of focus, and scheduled completion of the review for May 2009. The scope of that review, as detailed in the report, was to:

· Consider disposal of assets
· Offer options for use of the capital

This service review was therefore established to essentially look to improve the allotment sites overall through the possible realisation of capital receipts from the sale of under used sites. The focus was on re-investment back into the service area to improve the quality.

I am aware of the focus of the previous media coverage of this review, which on occasions has been less than helpful.

Despite this, the service review has moved at a pace and very productive workshops have been held with Members and a representative group of allotment holders on 24 and 27 November 2008 respectively. The aim of the workshops was to explore the options to improve the service overall. Further consultation will continue in the New Year.

A report will be submitted to Executive on 26 January 2008, which will detail how work on allotment sites will be progressed over the next few months, be it through the service review programme itself or outside of that review process.

I can re-affirm that the primary focus remains on realising the necessary funds for re-investment, rather than service cuts to meet the council’s financial savings target.

Supplementary Question

 I am pleased with the anwer however I cannot understand how Councillor D Grice believes that I knew the answer beforehand.

Answer

I have no further comments to add.

Question 4

Questioner: Councillor R Metcalfe

In your May 2007 election manifesto you promised to "provide the political will to speed up and simplify the issue of Anti-Social Behaviour Orders". Can you inform Council how many Anti-Social Behaviour Orders have been secured since May 2007 under your administration?

Answered by Councillor D Grice

The Council is committed to using a wide range of means to tackle the problem of anti-social behaviour and has consistently worked closely with all the relevant partners to do this.

In terms of formal actions taken since May 2007, we have secured 8 ASBOs and currently have 2 pending a Court Hearing; we have also agreed 10 Acceptable Behaviour Contracts and issued 782 Warning Letters. As Members of Council will know, ASBOs are to be regarded as an action of last resort, in those cases where all other attempts to change an individuals behaviour have failed and the Courts require those coming forward with an application to be able to demonstrate that they have issued the appropriate warnings and gone through the ABC process first.

As the Council will also be aware, the ASB Team, the Council’s Sport & Leisure staff and partners are proactive in addressing the problems created by anti-social behaviour at the outset. Through initiatives such as the Fair Play Football league and Dance Factor, Council officers have engaged with young people across the City. Up to 65 young men are involved in Fair Play Football each week when the programme is running and 120 young people took part in each Dance Factor session last year. Monitoring by the ASB Team has shown that when these projects are in operation, anti-social behaviour in the City falls, by as much as 22%.

It is this combination of pro-active engagement, partnership working and the use of the sanctions available to us, at the appropriate time, which is having an impact on anti-social behaviour

Question 5

Questioner: Councillor Nannestad

Can the Portfolio Holder explain why none of the four Conservative Members of the Commons Advisory Panel attended the last panel meeting and can he confirm that this lack of attendance is an indication of the total disinterest the Conservative group has in the City's Commons?

Answered by Councillor Weaver

 Thank you Mr Mayor

Mr Mayor, it may be of interest to you, colleagues on my right and to the members of the opposition that I have the honour of being a keeper of the City Centre Masterplan. I am not and do not want to be keeper of my colleagues private lives. Mr Mayor, I do not know, nor does it concern me what the other members of my group who are on the Commons Advisory Panel where doing on that night.

Councillor Nannestad is fully aware as to where I was because he saw me but just in case he has forgotten I will refesh his memory.

I was in Committee Room 4 chairing a meeting of the Hackney Carriage and Private Hire Committee, with his good friend Councillor Kath Brothwell and Councillor Paul Grice. A statutory Committee, whereas the Commons Advisory Panel is not.

As for the second question he has asked, it is this Conservative administration that has reintroduced the annual commons walk, something he deemed fit to do away with. So I suggest he puts his own ship in order before trying to imply scurrilous accusations against this administration.

Supplementary Question

Your answer is wrong, Labour had a Commons Walk, we did not do away with them. Only one Member of your party attended on both days . Doesn't this show a lack of interest.

Answer

I am not the keeper of other peoples lives, I know where I was, I was visiting my sick wife who comes first.

Question 6

Questioner: Councillor R Metcalfe

In your May 2007 election manifesto you promised to "investigate with the relevant agencies the possibility of introducing community punishment". Can you report to Council whether such a scheme is to be introduced?

Answered by Councillor D Grice

During 2008 some very productive work has been undertaken between the City Council and the Probation Service to more effectively utilise the labour provided by those individuals serving in the community through court orders or release on licence from prison.

Heads of Service met with the Probation Service on 30 April 2008, and from that meeting a set of draft protocols were established to select suitable schemes for delivery.

The arrangements were considered and approved by The City Council’s Employee Joint Consultative Committee on 8 July 2008. The City Council’s Antisocial Behaviour Co-ordinator administers the scheme on behalf of the Council and acts as the liaison point.

Since the arrangements were established the long-standing item of work has been the refurbishing of the railings along Yarborough Road. As soon as this work has been completed focus will turn to grounds maintenance works around the church on St Giles.

As Leader and the former Portfolio Holder for Social Justice, I can confirm that this Council is committed to working effectively with the Probation Service and other agencies to ensure that Community punishments are effective – effective in that they are seen by the wider community to be an appropriate recompense for the offences committed and also so that they help to rehabilitate offenders back into the community. This is something else we have provided from our manifesto.

Question 7

Questioner: Councillor Nannestad

How much rent, if any, did the City Council pay to Lincolnshire County Council for the use of the Castle grounds for the Christmas Market in 2007 and 2008?

Answered by Councillor Spratt

The hire charge paid to Lincolnshire County Council for the use of Lincoln Castle in conjunction with the annual Lincoln Christmas Market, was £4,120 in 2007, and £8,000 in 2008.

Supplementary Question

Bearing in mind a 100% increase was above the inflation rate and Lincolnshire County Council are one of our partners. What do they do as a partner other than put prices up? 

Answer

Lincolnshire County Council is a commercial organisation and have put their charges up to reduce costs. We have received substanstial sponsorship this year both in kind and financial. Increases have been experienced in this difficult economic climate. The market is the jewel in our crown and was probably under the previous administration. It was a political decision to keep the market but we will continue to try and drive costs down. If the market was stopped there would be considerable costs to the local economy of approximately £9 million. Both organisations have to maximise income.
72 Receive any Motions under Council Procedure Rule 14 from Members and provide Answers thereon: Sheltered Housing Schemes

Councillor Murray moved the following motion:

This Council supports the retention of the City’s Sheltered Housing schemes in City of Lincoln Council ownership and management and their inclusion in the Decent Homes Programme.

Therefore this Council agrees that the proposal to transfer these facilities to the control of the County Council and the suggested removal of the residential warden service in the schemes should be rejected.

The motion was seconded by Councillor R Metcalfe.

Councillor D Grice moved that the Motion should be put to the vote.

Councillor Weaver seconded the proposal.

This motion was agreed.

The original motion was put to the vote and a recorded vote taken as follows:
 

FOR AGAINST
Councillor Brothwell Councillor Hills
Councillor Charlesworth Councillor Bodger
Councillor Heath Councillor Clark
Councillor Hewson Councillor Denman
Councillor Jackson Councillor D Gratrick
Councillor Lee Councillor S Gratrick
Councillor R Metcalfe Councillor C Grice
Councillor Murray Councillor D Grice
Councillor Nannestad Councillor P Grice
Councillor Smith Councillor Jones
Councillor Toofany Councillor Kerry
Councillor West Councillor J Metcalfe
  Councillor Peeke
  Councillor Spratt
  Councillor Strengiel
  Councillor Weaver
  Councillor Williams

RESOLVED that the motion not be carried.
 

73 Amendments to Appointment of Members: Substitute Members

RESOLVED that the following amendments to Substitute Members to Committees be agreed: -

Committee Current Substitute Substitute Nominated
Planning Committee Councillor Peeke Councillor D Grice
Hackney Carriage and Private Hire Licensing Sub Committee Councillor P Grice
Councillor Robinson

Additional Substitutes:
Councillor Strengiel
Councillor Smith


 

74 To Receive the Minutes of Appointments Panel - 16 December 2008

RESOLVED that the minutes of the Appointments Panel held on 16 December 2008, in respect of the appointment of the Head of Corporate Support Services be received.

75 Receive any Questions under Council Procedure Rule 11 from Members of the Public and provide Answers thereon
76 The Portfolio Holder for Corporate Management

77 The Portfolio Holder for Customer Services

78 The Chairman of Performance Scrutiny Committee
79 Receive any Motions under Council Procedure Rule 14 from Members and provide Answers thereon


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